Doubting Bro

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  If Trump is Impeached...the alternative is Pence ...

  by tor1500 in

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  it's me again...with the question, if trump is impeached, the alternative is pence....well, it's not really a question but your thoughts...... who is he ?

  & where did they find him ?

  thoughts..... tor.

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  Doubting Bro

  Right, remember Clinton was impeached but found not guilty by the Senate.
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  gb, PLEASE, PLEASE UP THE ORGANIZATIONAL HARSHNESS IN 2018

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sometimes i have expressed a longing for jw organization to tone down its rhetoric and become, well, nicer and more loving.

  i have not been alone in my hope.

  some posters have even said that if a wave of kindness washed over jw organization and, say, the shunning doctrine was modified (e.g., left up to the individual's conscience without fear of retribution from elders), they'd go back.

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  Totally agree. The more they push, the more the reasonable ones start to question. I know many that have privately discussed their discomfort with the harshness with me. My wife said that the number one thing that convinced her that they don't have the "truth" is the hatred they show. Bring it boys
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  Hello Again

  by everbrighterhal in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm sorry if this is in the wrong category!

  i am formerly adimmedlight, or something close to that.

  i have been lurking here a few years now and while i did make an account before, i used a fake email (i no longer remember it, since it was made only to log in the one time i posted.. )because i was so paranoid people in my home town would discover me and "out" me.

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  Hallie, remember the best revenge is a life well lived and you certainly seem to be doing that. Glad to hear that you are furthering your education as well! Look forward to your contributions.
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  The end of an era ......

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have written some time ago, about how the religion i grew up in no longer exists.

  i was an 80’s jw kid who became a pioneer then a bethelite.

  they have new meetings, new elder roles, new acronyms, new core teachings, new songs and even a new bible.

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  That is a happy sight to behold!
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  So my PIMO Younger Brother Tried To Kill Himself Today

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we all know that this cult will drive those trying to leave to desperate measures, and today by brother was very nearly one of those statistics.

  he slashed his thigh with a kitchen knife and was bleeding out until he called the police.. i got a call on my way home from work from a police officer, coincidentally it was one of my old friends from school who's now a cop.

  he told me my brother is in hospital after an attempted suicide and has lost some blood but will be ok. but i should get to the hospital as he's asking for me.

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  Pale - just wanted to pass along my best wishes for your brother's speedy recovery! You are doing the right thing.
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  143rd Gilead Graduates cRiNGeWoRThY Song

  by pale.emperor in

  1. social
  2. humour

  quite possibly the most cringeworthy thing i've seen them do yet.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tk88rstv6o.

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  LOL - is this for real? I'm literally crying with laughter.
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  San Diego: Osbaldo Padron v Watchtower

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/apr/24/ticker-tough-build-jehovahs-witness-sex-abuse-case.

  tough to build jehovah's witness sex-abuse case.

  11. without documents, says plaintiff, he can’t get justice.

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  So what's the WT recourse? Appeal to CA Supreme Court?
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  October 31, 2017 TO SELECTED BOEs IN THE US BRANCH TERRITORY Re: Discontinuation of the Funds-on-Deposit Arrangement

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 31, 2017 to selected bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: discontinuation of the funds-on-deposit arrangement.

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  I thought the funds on deposit arrangement was done away with when they told the local congregations that should only keep 5k in their accounts and forward the rest to the WTS? I get the idea, if a congregation had a large amount of money, rather than invest or put into a savings account, they would allow the WTS to have it where they could get better returns. The principle stayed with the congregation but any investment income would be used by the WTS to fund their "work".

  I gotta think that there are banking or tax regulations on this arrangement that is causing the change.

  But, I thought the big cash grab had already happened.
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  A Little Direction Please

  by Brian J in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.

  i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.

  i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".

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  Brian - Welcome! My 2 cents is that everyone's situation is so different and there really is no right or wrong answer. I still attend despite being awake for a long time. Why? It's just easier for us to show up at half the meetings, fake service time and then live our life as we wish. Both myself and wife have extensive family relationships that would be destroyed if we took action. In our case, the pain of staying is less than the pain of leaving.

  In my situation, I was an elder and woke up after several years. The stress of being in an appointed position and having to do all those duties when I didn't believe was really tough. So, I ended up resigning for "family reasons". At first, my wife was upset with me. I set up my increasing stress and displeasure with the elder body for at least 6 months before resigning. And I was keeping her in the loop on things they did that caused me to be angry so when I did resign, she was actually happy.

  Over the ensuing years, I pulled back and she was never gun-ho to begin with. Finally, we had a long discussion where she admitted she never really believed and that she was scared that if I could go from a true believer that was 100% in to someone who didn't like the organization and was 100% not in, then I would do the same with our marriage. But, when she saw that nothing changed in our relationship and that I was actually more considerate of her (not putting the org over her anymore) she realized that it was the religion that was screwed up, not us.

  Now we are both awake and at first, we discussed JWism often but now its a nuisance that we deal with.

  The only advice I can give you is to take it slow and don't dump everything on your wife at once.
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  Stagnation of JWs in Britain

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is an 'off-topic' continuation of this discussion.

  steve2: in britain, growth of publishers is slowing down, if not stagnating.

  darkspilver: .

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  Doubting Bro

  Just a thought, field service has very little success in actually making converts especially in first world countries. The whole purpose in those countries is to give members a sense of purpose, unity and keep them busy. If you were running a business based on production and looked at their success rate in making converts, you would definitely change the model. The amount of FS reported directly correlates to how spiritual a person is viewed and their standing in the congregation. The only way you can drop the requirement to report would be to replace it with some other measure.It honestly has nothing to do with making converts.